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Snake wrapped around a phone.

Joseph Cox, Senior Staff Writer at Motherboard, joins us to talk about the world of encrypted phones.


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Creepy surveillance

Encrypted Phones


Darknet Diaries is created by Jack Rhysider.

Episode artwork by odibagas.

Audio cleanup by Proximity Sound.

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Recording equipment used this episode was the Shure SM7B, Zoom Podtrak P4, Sony MDR7506 headphones, and Hindenburg audio editor.



JACK: I’m mad. I’m honestly really upset about the current state of our mobile phone options. I want privacy and security when it comes to my communication devices, and I often lie to myself and say that’s the single most important feature of a phone. I don’t want anyone eavesdropping on what I do when I’m on my phone, but the reality is, every single thing I do on my phone is being recorded and sent somewhere.

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